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NEW Carers Expert- By Experience sister site This site will be where you will find carers stories. It is new at the moment and will be added to shortly

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I would like to apologise to those carers whose stories and experiences were on my original site. If you would like to contact me again I would be more than happy to add your stories, along with new carers visiting this site. All names will be changed to hide identity of the people being name in your story. The only thing I would like to add is the city you live in, to show the problems experienced is not just in one area, but a national problem. However your story may not be about a problem it may be about stories of recovery to give hope to other carers who may read them.

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A Mums Story

How could anyone have foreseen, that beautiful June day, 15 years ago, when John walked out  of a school exam, that it was the heralding of a dark, deeply , mysteriously, hidden illness, that would, from that time on, plague him, at times overwhelm him and finally seduce him into taking his own life. 

No one could know, not even us, his parents. We who knew him best of all, who loved him dearly, not even we, could see the signs of an insidious illness which would, in time, take our beloved son from us.  

John was born in 1974. He was our second child and was 16 months younger than his eldest sister – a younger sister was born seven years later. As the family grew, so did their love for each other. The eldest two were particularly close but as they got older John became the big, strong, much-loved brother to both girls and enjoyed a close relationship with both sisters. He was intelligent, inquisitive, energetic, funny, loving, kind, giving and often exasperating. We all accommodated his boundless energies as he grew but it did get in the way. We began to get reports from school, that he was very spirited. He found it difficult to concentrate, wasn’t reaching his potential, talked a lot. If he could just settle down he would achieve much more. Fortunately, at first school, he had a very devoted teacher who tried to understand John and helped him channel his energies instead of crushing them. Unknown to anyone, this lively spirit was belying something far more menacing than we could ever have contemplated.   

(John is the one holding the bottle in photo)

At about this time, he began to wonder what would happen if his father or mother were to die. What would happen if there was a war? When he saw animals that had been killed, by the side of the road, he became unusually distressed and would think about it very deeply and it would play on his mind. He never told us, at the time, about any of these deep thoughts and if he had done we would have probably just thought it was a natural part of growing up. It was later in his life that he tried to explain to us the macabre thoughts which plagued his tormented mind. 

School continued to be a challenge for John, not from an intellectual point of view but from the area of behaviour. He found it increasingly more difficult to pay attention. His reports and parents evenings said the same thing, term after term,’ intelligent pupil, but must try harder to achieve his potential.’ John never missed school, never played truant and always did his homework. On the face of it, he was doing ok but needed to apply himself more. We drew his attention to this reoccurring fact. Little did we know, he was fighting his own relentless battle with his increasingly more chaotic mind. Then an incident occurred which was totally out of character. It was June and exam time. Our capable, 14 year old son, walked out of a maths exam, walked around school for 20 minutes whilst having a panic attack, then, with the encouragement of a teacher, went back into the examination. The end of that school year, he gained 9 grade A’s and won the form prize. What was there to be alarmed about, he was doing fine and we were very proud of him. 

BUT with hindsight, alarm bells should have rung at that first ‘out of character incident.’ This was the defining moment when we should have sought help and advice. Instead, as I am sure many parents do, we explained it away. We did not want to put pressure on him. We did not want to draw attention to something which, in itself, was nothing much to be concerned about. If only we had known of the deep anxiety that was building in John’s mind. If only we had understood the seriousness of the ‘out of character’ panic attack. 

Recalling that occasion, we were concerned and wondered why he had walked out, why he had panicked. We discussed it with him and reassured him that there was nothing to worry about. We did keep an eye on him from this time onwards. Unfortunately, we did not seek any professional advice and neither did the school give us any indication that we should be seeking medical help. Then, something, maybe parent’s intuition, began to tell us, all was not  well. 

 We suffered the loss of a beloved grandma. John, who was particularly close to her, did not cry or seem to be unduly upset. That was very odd, but again, we explained it away. He was dealing with it in his own way. Maybe he does not want to talk about it. This was his much loved nana, why wasn’t he grieving?  We did ask ourselves these questions but I guess we did not want to disturb him and make more of the situation than he would want. He himself had not complained of feeling down or not being able to cope. Why did we not seek advice? We were once again lulled into a false sense of everything being ok.  

John was a sociable lad.  He always had plenty of friends to do things with. He went fishing, camping, cycling, sports - all the usual activities lads are involved in. He enjoyed reading, sketching, painting and went hill-walking with his dad. He was always busy with one pursuit or another. He had good relationships within the family. He was a respectful son, always pleasant and helpful, never any trouble.  

Then, one day, we realized his fishing gear was gone. When challenged about its disappearance he said he didn’t like going to the lake anymore as it made him sad. Sad, why? The place he had loved to go and spend hours was now somewhere he did not want to visit. We questioned him to make sure he hadn’t had an unpleasant experience there. No, nothing like that, he just got sad when he went there. We were dumbfounded.

Still, again, we reconciled it in our minds and thought, he’s growing up and he has many other interests.

About this time, John was put on report at school because of his lack of attention and disruptiveness in class. He wasn’t badly behaved, more of a nuisance. He didn’t seem to be able to stop himself. At the time, he told us he felt it really helped him, being on report, because he had a reason for having to tow the line. It had the desired effect. He got on with his school work and achieved good results. When he was 16 he left school with very good GCSE results and we were all thrilled with his achievement. He was relieved to be leaving school. We did ask him to consider Sixth Form but he was adamant that he had had enough of the pressure of schooling. We felt it had taken a lot out of him and realized he was not comfortable with the pressure that school brought. As parents, we felt disappointed, but it was his choice, so we let him make his own decision. 

During his last year at school we were aware of changes in his personality. He became more quiet, lack of interest in things which he used to love, a sadness which was not right for a child of his age. Going out and pursuing unhelpful things which he had not done before. What was the problem? Where had the fun loving, energetic lad gone? His smile was lifeless, his eyes sad and longing, on occasions, his whole demeanor resembled a frightened, lonely individual. It was painful to watch all these changes and not know why they were happening. What was the problem? We asked this again and again over the ensuing years. Eventually, we learned what was plaguing our dear son. He had depression. We had no idea young people could have depression. It was something adults, with problems got, not young people from stable, loving home, backgrounds. We were still asking WHY ? Nothing added up, nothing made sense. John, by now, was visiting our family doctor. He began taking medication. At times it helped but often the depression would grip him and take his vitality and joy from him. He would feel very low. He sometimes wrote and spoke of dying and being scared for life. It was very alarming and we were forever anxious for him and his well-being. There were times of fun and laughter but they were short lived. The down times of depression were more the norm than the exception. 

My recollection of fifteen years ago, is that depression in young people was not talked about as depression. I do not remember reading anything that would have helped me recognize or understand the pain our son was going through. I don’t recall being given any literature, as my children grew up, about signs of depression in young children or teens. We were quite rightly warned of signs of childhood illnesses, told breast was best, boldly encouraged to get our children inoculated against childhood diseases and more recently given much literature to help us know the first signs of the dreadful illness, meningitis. We were given helps about discipline, good eating habits, right fitting shoes, the proper way for children to clean teeth but never do I remember getting any information on their mental health. I believe that is because it has only recently been something which paediatricians are understanding themselves. I am sure there has been a concern about some behaviours in children but we parents have blindly gone on thinking that our children, with proper care and love will grow up healthy and ‘normal’.

 I was certainly one of those parents back in the 1980s, who assumed that my child was well if all that he got wrong, was the occasional sore throat, earache and annoying verruca on his foot. How wrong I was.  

In 2003, there is much more knowledge and literature about mental illness in young children. BUT is there enough literature in doctors’ surgeries, in magazines, on television. I am convinced that parents with children whose behaviour is giving them cause for concern, do not realize that they could POSSIBLY be displaying the early signs of some mental illness or depression. No parent wants to even think about that for their child. However, if you are a parent whose child is for some reason not fitting into school comfortably, who is hyperactive, who gets angry easily, who has rapid mood swings, who throws tantrums, who is non compliant, who is a troubled soul, I would be at least asking the question with my family doctor. If these signs are temporary then they are most likely part of growing up. However, if they persist and give cause for concern,  make a point of visiting your  family doctor. We are often embarrassed and think that somehow their behaviour may be a reflection on the way we have brought them up. Just remember, if your child is not well mentally, then most likely they cannot help their behaviour. What ever is going on in their minds is too strong for them and they cannot help themselves. However, there is help. Therapists can help your child and so can modern medications. A correct diagnosis takes time and attention BUT it is the key.The sooner the problem is spotted and help is given, the sooner your child will feel better about themselves and life. You will have done your best for your child. 

This article has been written in loving memory of our dear son John , who took his own life in April 2003 aged 29 years.

John suffered from Manic Depression, an incurable mental illness. He was brave, courageous and most of all very easy to love. We all miss him so much.

 If this article encourages others to seek help then it will have achieved what it set out to do. I am happy to correspond with anyone who may have questions which I may or may not be able to answer but I am willing to be a listening ear and help if I can. 

Julie Oct.2003   Derby uk

Toothbrush story.  

This little story came about in an email between myself and Julie

You reminded me of this when you talk about your boys and them tidying up after themselves. 

Anyway, in an effort to rehabilitate John and help get his mind ordered, when he was very low and depressed, we talked about the little things he could do.

I suggested that when he brushed his teeth with his electric toothbrush, he shook it and got the excess water from it so that when it stood upright, it didn't continue dripping and leaving a gooey mess on the window sill.( where his brush was, there was always a mess and I thought, 'oh for goodness sake just shake your brush and wipe it before you finish with it)

Anyway, he agreed and said he would remember to do that. Everyday I would look to see how that was going and judging by the gooey mess, not very well. Not wishing to stress him out, I would wait for an opportune moment to ask him how he thought it was going!

How's the toothbrush routine going John, I would ask.

OK, isn't it? says he.

Well there is still stuff there. says me.

Well, I'm shaking it off. says he.

I thought, yeh right! thinks me. 

Anyway, we never made any inroads into that, so I thought. When John died, I took his electric toothbrush for myself. I use it twice daily .

And what is there, left at the bottom of it, every time?

A gooey mess.

I shake it, wipe it. Still a gooey mess. Bless him. I often chuckle to myself. 

So he was trying all the time. Bet he's laughing now, eh!  Julie